reject it -- rejected by both republicans and democrats. we hear from business leaders they com up with this. >> how low do the fine balance? i will take that. remove the tax shelter and cut the top rate. >> rahm it -- romney is already proposing nonsense. >> we have a huge tax increase already slowing the economy down. to the clutter the tax code everyone can declare victory like 1986. we took the jump out and got the ratedown. get those down sharply. >> he will be the president. >> romney has already made these proposals what are they doing? i don't understand the motivation. >> they try to kick congresses but. >> better late than never. >> when you repeals obamacare and get to a sound dollar people think we will do something on the spending side is usual -- the juice will come. the government is not as much of an enemy anymore as it is under this guy. lou: vice president biden jet lag gourde just joe being joe? you will of the numbers. if you think the government is dysfunctional allow wait until you see the electoral college tied. the.